Blue48

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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:48:25 PM
GOOD TO HEAR!!
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POLELANE

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:40:53 PM
and if more people drove 55 there might be less accidents and more oil left.
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jeskibuff

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:30:21 PM
jeepster4 said: "If we had the good solid metal cars and 55mph speed limits of 1994, we would have the death rate of 1.73/VMT like we had in 1994."
And why would we want a higher rate? I remember when Clinton axed that stupid 55-MPH limit. The Chicken Littles predicted there would be carnage all over our highways. In actuality, the fatality rate DECREASED. The simple-minded STILL can't think anything else but "SPEED KILLS", despite the stark realities.
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ILANGE9

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:36:55 PM
Great news if true.
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honda0105

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:10:50 PM
one of the bigger issues I see is the lack of quality driving education. Driving slower is not necessarily bad, but driving 48 in a 55 mph rural zone will more likely lead to an accident when people try to pass the moving obstacle.
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honda0105

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 8:09:49 PM
not sure about the alcohol related fatalities, greywolves. Know too many cases that are DUI related (both alcohol and other stuff).
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greywolves

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 10:48:37 AM
i believe the two most significant events over the last 15 quarters are a reduction of miles driven by drivers age 16 to 21, and reduction in alcohol related accidents.
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genef01

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:47:29 AM
I would like to know where they get their VMT figures. Statistically it appears to be good that the fatality rate is dropping, but I question where they are getting the vehicle miles driven. At any rate, even if just 1 less person dies on the highway, that is good.
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jeepster4

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:38:10 AM
"This isnt a statistic that a federal agency should be proud of. True its great fewer people have been killed. The statistics only show that economics brought on by the administration they work for has crippled Americans enough that they cant afford to drive as much as they used to. The less people drive, the fewer the accidents and fatalities."
A combination of not reading the article and pushing a political agenda led to this misstatement. The 2009 rate of fatalities per 100 million miles has nothing to do with the current economy or the total number of miles traveled in 2009(miles traveled in 2009 actually increased over 2008, but that is another story). The 2009 rate of 1.16/VMT is the lowest figure ever recorded and has gone down constantly over the years, even with smaller cars and more use of plastics. If we had the good solid metal cars and 55mph speed limits of 1994, we would have the death rate of 1.73/VMT like we had in 1994.
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RENEGADEGAS

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:20:35 AM
It will be interesting to see how this number changes when they begin introducing more and more of the plastic hybrids, smart cars and electric vehicles. True less metal and weight will get you better gas mileage, but will happen when it hits a tree or an SUV?
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RENEGADEGAS

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:10:22 AM
This isnt a statistic that a federal agency should be proud of. True its great fewer people have been killed. The statistics only show that economics brought on by the administration they work for has crippled Americans enough that they cant afford to drive as much as they used to. The less people drive, the fewer the accidents and fatalities.
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ashishpa

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:01:47 AM
Its still very huge number of deaths in traffic accidents every year. This is very sad.
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Saturn93

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:57:48 AM
Fewer passenger miles driven and greater use of seat belts are the biggest factors by far.
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mmene

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:47:45 AM
Well cars clearly are getting safer every year and now that less people are driving with the current unemployment levels it is hardly surprising that traffic fatalties are coming down.
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CruisinLinda

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:39:07 AM
NHTSA can take credit for its ad campaigns fewer deaths on the road, but here is the real reason:
"According to early projections by the Department of Transportation (DOT), the fatality rate, which takes into account the number of miles traveled, reached the lowest level since record-keeping started."
So here is another consolation for the weak economy and unemployment. The others are lower gas prices and less driving leading to living a slower life and stopping to smell the roses.
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250FORD

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:37:56 AM
It shows people can't afford to drive. Of course deaths go down when when miles driven goes down.
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jadeusa

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:36:01 AM
Safety belts, laws against cell phones and text messaging, awareness of driving through school zones have slowly brought down the accidents/ deaths due to accidents.
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Sody33

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:34:49 AM
Less miles driven = less gas purchased = less situations where one would be in a fatal accident = more care to use the fuel you have carefully = less traffic fatalities. Besides we cannot afford to lose good people in autos.
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Mowerman08

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:33:12 AM
Right now this is a project guess, the final numbers won't be out until later this summer. But there will be a decline in road deaths, even as already reported in Wis.
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zdn

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:31:49 AM
good
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EcoVore

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:28:54 AM
Fatalities heading lower thats great.
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JCS319

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:25:32 AM
If you had read the article, you would have found that the decrease in the fatality rate has nothing to do with the economy or less miles driven. Looks like a combination of increased law enforcement and better vehicle safety.
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captngasTN

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:24:46 AM
Of course NHTSA wants to claim credit but less miles travelled means fewer opportunities.
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rwm1

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:18:14 AM
That's good news. But I seem to find the idiot drivers still out there. Like the one driving the wrong lane on Halloween and caused me to go off the road or the woman who decided to switch lanes unexpectedly causing me to slide on ice. Both were close calls. Not to mention all the deer and other varmints that like to run out on you.
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cutter1330

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:16:36 AM
This is a good thing....deaths headed down.
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EVBuddy

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:16:18 AM
Whydo I have to click to see the complete sentance?
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10k

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:15:12 AM
fewer unemployed peeps like me on the road..no loot-no gas..
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grouch311

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:14:17 AM
more laws coming out
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:13:07 AM
Cant drive as much under the oppressive economic conditions.
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Mooseman1

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:12:47 AM
Allot has changed since 1954. Car safety needed to be improved.
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96sc1

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El Paso
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:10:19 AM
Perhaps more horrible maimings instead.
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roadrunnerMO

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Kansas
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:09:51 AM
Slowing down to save gas and driving less both cut down on traffic fatalities.
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pbc2001

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:04:52 AM
Fewer people on the roads mean fewer deaths.
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thriftymeCA

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:04:10 AM
Still see many people holding there cellphones even though it is against the law in CA.
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DosEquis26

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:03:12 AM
people without jobs generally don't crash cars
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Sgt151

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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 12:00:34 AM
Fewer people on the roads mean fewer deaths.
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jackson661

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:59:55 PM
This is Great news.....
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Gary65

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:54:59 PM
That's good nice to hear.
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oahugasit

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Hawaii
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:53:59 PM
Great news, but still it would be greater if we had very few highway deaths. Texting and driving is just ... crazy.
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toyota1999

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:53:37 PM
I am sure when gas prices rose up to 4 dollars, people drove less. Now that people are not working, they drive less. I am sure unemployment helps keep the death rate down because if you don't go to work, you probably won't drive everyday twice a day.
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Nicoalbum

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:51:30 PM
It says the fatality rate takes in account the miles driven, but still it is almost 34000 deaths in total, almost 100 a day across the United States.
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esquared

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:47:09 PM
Seat belts and shoulder harnesses are to "blame..."
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JoeKR

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:42:34 PM
But I'll bet Toyota's contributions have risen.
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TBONE3

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:38:12 PM
Fewer jobs, higher unemployment, higher gas prices as well as other necessities - why be surprised the highway fatalities are down? People are driving less and fatalities are following the decline.
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Z51Corvette

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:38:06 PM
Try fewer miles driven... primarily...
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MidNJ

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:36:46 PM
Wait a minute:
What does this have to do with the ongoing onslaught of Toyota death car stories?
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Somis1

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:35:53 PM
Toyota is sort of bucking the trend.
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vulcan96

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:31:39 PM
duh - less money - higher priced gas = less traveling
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Toppers

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:29:37 PM
Fewer people working=few people driving...
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PaylessKY

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 11:26:44 PM
This could also be attributed to fewer cars on the road because of people being out of work.
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